@claraoshea #mscidel Clara, how do you define embodiment & presence within this context?
@batate #mscidel When might virtual walls be appropriate - and is this different from physical walls? Is it to keep people out or in?
@claraoshea #mscidel But open and imaginative spaces are also great Field trips should certainly not be constrained by real or virtual walls
@claraoshea #mscidel I see strong advantages to a "room with wall" area for interaction in virtual words for some types of meeting and event
@claraoshea #mscidel There's virtual embodiment in learning which is far more common these days- is vel less effective than f2f? If so, how?
@JanetDonaldson1 #mscidel - is the such a thing as disembodied learning? are we ever entirely 'free' of 'embodiment'?
#mscidel - No re embodiment+active learning- no physical presence required to learn. The ? mgt be, is 'disembodied' learning less effective?
I like that idea! RT: @jenna_fyfe: @claraoshea @Jam3sMac- so is embodiment related to active learning? #mscidel
@jackie8008 - but is active learning essential for embodiment? #mscidel
RT @jackie8008: @jenna_fyfe @claraoshea @Jam3sMac Wouldn't say that embodiment was essential for active learning. #mscidel
@Jenna_fyfe @Jackie8080 The error is Dreyfus, who assumes OE/DE students are all Passive.This is False, thus so is his implication.#mscidel
RT @jenna_fyfe: @claraoshea @Jam3sMac- so is embodiment related to active learning? #mscidel
@BarnettColin - emotionally engaged - caring about outcome - risk and commitment in ref to Blake #mscidel
@claraoshea @Jam3sMac- so is embodiment related to active learning? #mscidel
RT: @jenna_fyfe: @claraoshea @Jam3sMac- so is embodiment related to active learning? #mscidel
RT: @BarnettColin present?Yes. emotionally engaged?Must b. Viewing sunset over Annapurna I can b aware bt nt emotionally engaged on #mscidel
#mscidel - can we relate ideas of embodiment back to our the darkside stories? eg performed identity as influenced by factors like gender?
@Jam3sMac agreed - we can't assume that embodiment and presence are the same thing, and that lack of embodiment=lack of presence #mscidel
@claraoshea - yes 'present' ie. aware I think sums it up. Can be easier to feel present in OE situation than f2f in a large lecture #mscidel
@claraoshea I would suggest most professionals fragment their lives to make them more effective in each situation wk.v.home! #mscidel
Dreyfus' error: Assumes DE/OE are "passive students in front of their computers"(A) => abs of embod.(B): A=>B accept (A) is FALSE #mscidel
@Jam3sMac multiplicity as schizophrenia: implication that multiplicity is bad? fragmentation as disorder? can multiplicity b good? #mscidel
@jenna_fyfe @MKristola if embodiment is in the moment & emotionally & intellectucally engaged - are we talking 'present'? ie aware? #mscidel
@s0793898 #mscidel interesting idea! Have we become superficial in our approach to tech? Do you think we should become "Masters" of IT?
How abstract do we wnt R lives 2 become? Beyond checking our car's oil & water, have we lost track of the mechanics of things? #mscidel